Hawks to salute Roenick
The Blackhawks will honor the recently retired Jeremy Roenick on Sunday, Nov. 15, prior to the game against the San Jose Sharks.
It will be Jeremy Roenick Heritage Night, with the former Hawks star dropping the ceremonial first puck. Roenick also will be honored with video and in-game salutes.
"Today is a proud day for my family and me to be recognized in such a way by the team that drafted me as an 18-year-old," Roenick said. "Many of my greatest hockey memories are from my playing days in Chicago."
Roenick spent the first eight of his 20 NHL seasons with the Hawks and was one of the most popular players in team history before late owner Bill Wirtz and former general manager Bob Pulford traded him to Phoenix because of a contract dispute.
Roenick ranks seventh in Hawks history with 267 goals and eighth in scoring with 596 points.
NOTES: The Hawks set a new team attendance record for a preseason game with Saturday's crowd of 19,734.
The seating capacity of the United Center now is 19,717 – down from 20,500 because of the renovation in the 300 level...
Kris Versteeg left Saturday's game with an apparent injury after taking one shift in the second period.
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Has anyone heard that his knee injury could be serious and he may miss several months of the season? I just heard it on the news.
In typical TSN fashion, they give the Hawks no respect. Are the Hawks a top 5 team in the NHL? Arguably, but not according to TSN and their BS rankings...
Hawks come in at #10, which leaves Vancouver, Detroit, San Jose, Philly, New Jersey, Boston, Washington, Pittsburgh, and Carolina all ahead of them.
It's a joke. It's evident that TSN is using any chance they can get to smear the Hawks. First it was them broadcasting the mis-filing of the RFAs and running with it. Now we have this....Please. A network who employs morons like McKenzie and Pierre McGuire shouldn't come as a shock.
Hopefully the Hawks print this out and paste it to their bullentin board. They also should think twice in granting interviews or segments to the Canadian network for their game of the week. I never realized how bad it was, until I had to watch a TSN feed of the Hawks-Flames game 4 and had to listen to it.
Another ridiculous rumor out there.....Frolov and a d-man for Barker and Versteeg. I guess the mastermind behind this rumor saw that Frolov's cap hit was at 2.9 for this season, and a way for the Hawks to "dump" payroll. Seems like a LOT to give up for 1 year of service.......
Why get worked up over what tsn says in their fantasy poll?
& scott cullen isn't exactly their top hockey guy ....he tries to ride the coattails of bob mckenzie who is the most plugged in guy in hockey - but some people see in others what they are themselves....
in fact, that they only included 1 Cdn team in the top 10, when you would normally expect a Canadian site to include at least 2 or 3, whether justified or not, since it is Canadian advertising that drives them...
& to suggest that canadian hockey media have it in for the hawks is ludicrous - the hawks have among the highest percentage of canadian players of any team & one of the best media guys in Canada, Elliotte Friedman, has stated publicly numerous times that the hawks have been his favorite team since he was a kid...
as for the tsn writeup, cullen may have put too much stock into the off-ice distractions, but imo, the hawks are ripe for taking a step back this year, thanks to a number of factors which cullen did point out.
their goaltending depth is clearly not as strong & as even foley & olzcyk surprisingly pointed out on Saturday, Huet has never started more than 40 games in a season (crawford & niemi have started a combined total of 6 nhl games) & his record in back to back games isn't great & the hawks have 19 of them this year... what happens if huet gets hurt or if he isn't as effective as some fans here think he is going to be????
if their goaltending isn't as good as last year (& despite some naive comments here last year suggesting khabi didn't cover up a lot for the hawks D last season), the D's vulnerabilities (campbell, sopel, barker, etc.) are going to be more exposed with huet in goal, imo.
hossa, who was supposed to be more reliable health wise than havlat to warrant a 12 yr contract that takes him to age 42...is going to be out til thanksgiving... and when he had a chance to make a difference to his team when it was 1 game away from a cup, did nothing despite having a surrounding cast of datsyuk, zetterberg, lidstrom to take the heat off of him.
he's going to be THE guy on the hawks who will be expected to score & lead this team forward beyond last year's performance like havlat did last year....frankly, i don't see it coming from hossa based on what he's shown in his career, even if fully healthy.
& if the goaltending & D doesn't keep the puck out as much as last year, the O will need to be better to make up for the defensive shortcomings....with kane attracting a lot of unwanted & unnecessary attention that will make him more of a target this year ....how he responds will play a large part to how the hawks offense does.
then throw in a short trip to europe to start the season & the compressed schedule which will wear on top minute guys like keith & seabrook (& make them & perhaps others more prone to injury), the high & imo unrealistic expectations for the hawks & the improvement of other teams like st. louis & columbus and the fact that the hawks have very little cap flexibility to "fix" things thanks to hossa & the RFA QO screwups, i think 10th is about right (& perhaps if everything goes wrong, even generous). heck they might finish 3rd or lower in their own division!!
and if all that isn't bad enough, how much cap room do the hawks have going forwad to reward toews, kane & keith if they have great last years of their contracts, much less lock them up before it gets to having to make a QO? answer - not much - in fact, they'll have to make a major contract dump to avoid losing one of them, imo.
i hope i'm wrong, but i think this team is going to disappoint a lot of people who have unrealistic expectations based on last year's overachieving with key guys like khabi & havlat, bolland... who are either gone or have fat new contracts in the bag.
addendum: 9 teams ahead of the hawks, fwiw.
pittsburgh
detroit,
washington (came within a game of knocking off the pens in the qtrs)
boston (2nd overall last year & despite losing kessell, isn't going to drop off much)
san jose (1st overall last year & heatley will make them as good if not better at least on paper)
the above 5 are clearly better than the hawks...
nj (didn't have brodeur for much of last year but hardly missed him, despite largely having a no-name Defense & lemaire is at least as good a coach as sutter - they should have beat final four carolina).
vancouver - luongo is clearly better than huet & the addition of guys like ehrhoff, samuelsson & rookies grabner & hodgson are going to make this team at least as good if not better than last year & they'll be helped by playing in a weak division with minny, colorado & edmonton....
st. louis - hawk fans are overlooking this team even tho they had the best record in the 2nd half of last season, despite missing key guys like johnson, kariya & macdonald for much if not the entire year - they are going to be better this year than last, while i think the hawks won't be quite as good...
honorable mention - columbus - they'll have derrek brassard (leading calder candidate before he got hurt last year) to go with mason, & two other good young guys in voracek & filatov. making the playoffs last year is going to give this young team confidence going forward & I think they'll give the hawks all they can handle...
It doesn't matter that the Hawks have a bunch of Canadian players, or guys in their front office are Canadian, or whatever else. The fact remains, that since the Hawks blindsided the NHL on July 1st and got Hossa, TSN has made it a point to proudly broadcast, and over dramatize every Hawk short coming since. All you needed to do is have read the ridiculous pieces by Darren Dredger once the whole RFA filings came out. It was selective journalism at its best. They love harping about the salary cap, and once the Hawks sign all 3 and not trade away huge pieces of their core and not skip a beat, I can't wait to laugh at how foolish those idiots will look.
Are the Hawks the best team in the NHL? No. Are they the 4th best team in the Western Conference and worse off then Carolina, Philly, and even Boston? No. Come on....San Jose has lost a bunch of guys, and still has the same core that has imploded in the playoffs. Detroit is Detroit but they have just as many question marks. Vancouver? Until Roberta wins a meaningful playoff game, I don't want to hear about the Canucks. That goof let in some of weakest goals I have ever seen, and how he wasn't run out of Vancouver is beyond me. How do you let in a wrap around in the 3rd period, in an elimination game of the playoffs? How?
You make valid points, but I'm not going to sit here and continually stare down this team with a negative attitude. They aren't that bad, and if you want to paint a pessimistic view, go right ahead. Every team in the NHL has question marks. I also believe you were hell bent on trying to trade Havlat last year because he was going to walk, and now complain that they lost a huge piece when they did? Which is it?
With a team that has gotten taste of how good they can be, and how close they were to playing for the cup, I really don't see them taking a step backwards. Most of these guys on this team are fighting for an Olympic spot. I expect guys like Sharp, Keith, Toews, Kane, Seabrook, and Buff to start off quickly and force those respective camps to make a tough decision on them. I also think Huet will rebound and be somewhat solid. He isn't the second coming of Patrick Roy, but I don't remember Roberto Luongo ever making it past the quarter finals.
As far as the short window to win, I truly believe that the Hawks can afford to deal a guy like Versteeg, or Barker and replace them internally. I'm pretty confident that the organization will not allow Keith, Toews, or Kane to walk unless the HAWKS decide so.
Lets relax and allow the season to begin.
"I also believe you were hell bent on trying to trade Havlat last year because he was going to walk, and now complain that they lost a huge piece when they did? Which is it?"
I'm not complaining that Havlat walked - I knew he was going to when the hawks didn't offer him a competitive long term deal that he would get from another team, despite health concerns (& I also said that there is no way should the hawks should have offered him a long term deal given his history of health issues).
I advocated trading Havlat because he was healthy & having a career year & realized that the hawks had no chance of winning a cup last year even with him & khabi (you didn't have to be that smart to figure that out, but there were many who thought & continue to think the hawks are on the cusp of a cup). I favored moving an asset for something in return (at least a 2nd round pick) instead of losing it for nothing back. same rationale applied for khabi.
there is no doubt that without havlat & khabi, the hawks don't advance as far as they did in the playoffs last year (might have even gone out the first round), so their young guys did get some valuable playoff experience, but the hawks are going to find out they also created unrealistic expectations with last year's overachievements that will put a lot of (maybe undue?) pressure on these young guys to at least repeat if not go further this year.
going out the first round without havlat & khabi would not have been as exciting for the team & the fans, but it wouldn't have been the end of the world either, & imo, having a couple of draft picks &/or prospects in return for havlat & khabi would have been a more solid foundation from which to build towards the ultimate goal.
instead, the hawks have now compounded the problem by signing hossa to an outrageous deal (& not only that, they didn't bother to get a physical before they signed him). that contract (after already tieing up a lot of cap room with campbell) has created problems to make moves not just this season, but also threatens their ability to sign the big 3 RFAs.
meanwhile hossa is a guy who has not led or helped his teams to anything, despite making it to the finals the past two years & despite having the spotlight & pressure deflected from him by others. we'll see how he responds to the pressure of lofty expectations & spotlight in chicago but his history to date suggests he'll do well if he matches havlat last year...maybe bryan campbell can give him some advice on how to handle the pressure that comes with being overpaid?
as for tsn, would it make you feel better & make you think more highly of them if they said the blackhawks are god's gift to hockey??? you suggest i'm negative, but i think you need to get a grip on your paranoia that some canadian media is out to "get the hawks" & even if they were, what does that mean to the team???
kane's off-ice stupidity (on top of the RFA QO screw-up) has given the hockey crazed canadian media a lot of fodder they wouldn't have if the hawks didn't screw up first...deal with that.
I found it pretty ridiculous also... especially considering the off-ice incidents seemed to be the reason for the lower than expected ranking. Huet wasn't mentioned once as a cause for concern. I guess having eight caliber olympians doesn't mean much.
1. We were up by 2 goals
2. We played against MOSTLY AHL players
3. We had possession and turned the puck over which cost us at least 2 Goals
4. We had a 4 Minute PP and did POO.
BUT (The Sequel)
1. It's the preseason
2. Huet didn't look bad
3. Skille looked great
4. Buff looked great
Wish MO were gonna be on TV so we could worry/watch some more. It will be a long 2 weeks until the start of the real season.
The Huet era begins - yea! (growl)
did look, ahh, slow...late to get down, get up or move from post to post. Maybe first game jitters, I dunno.
Maybe the philosophy of the hawks this year is to have a high powered offense to offset the softies that nobody wants to talk about.
Still - it was great to see the hawks in action again, and a sell-out as well.
Can anyone answer why 2 and 7 played almost half an hour?
I don't have a good answer and i don't think there is one.
they were essentially playing an ahl team tonight, so you could argue and say they weren't overworked, but they haven't had this short of an off-season before & are obviously going to be your go to guys during the season - where they'll be travelling to europe & back (jet lag, etc.), and playing a compressed schedule (19 back to backs) thanks to the olympics, (which they may potentially be playing in as well)...
plus you've got young guys in camp whose chance for game action (to see what they can do) is limited with more cuts apparently coming on monday...
there is little sense, imo to use them as much as they were in the first exhibition game.
that said, 51 got even more ice time...
i was hoping for more from petoit, at least in the physical dept - guy is listed at 6'4 - for a guy whose been up for a cup of coffee in 7 years since he was drafted, he needs to crunch guys & be more imposing than he showed.