Tuesday at O'Hare (Cubs and Sox)
Things are quiet here at the lovely O’Hare Hilton, as the GMs are safely ensconced in one room for meetings until about 12:30 Chicago time. After that, they’ll have some time for trade talk before meeting with us media types later in the afternoon.
We have a few Cubs and Sox leftovers from yesterday and some new takes on things:
--The Cubs have an extraordinarily high number of arbitration-eligible players this winter. Those would be players with between three and five years of service and maybe a “Super 2” in Mike Fontenot. They’ll know more on Fontenot Friday. Leading the list is Carlos Marmol, who figures to get a nice raise. I’m sure my agent friend Barry Praver will be looking at the holds and hits-to-innings pitched ratio. From the Cubs side, they might just happen to mention those walks and hit batters. The Cubs haven’t had a case go to a hearing since the early 1990s, so we’ll see what happens this year.
Among the other arb guys are Jeff Baker, Sean Marshall, Ryan Theriot, Koyie Hill, Aaron Heilman and Angel Guzman.
I asked Jim Hendry yesterday if the arb cases could have a big impact on the payroll.
"It could a little bit,” he said. “We have a lot of arbitration guys, but a lot of them are first-timers, too. It's not like when we had significant dollar accounts, like Woody's (Kerry Wood’s) was that time or when Zambrano went up in the double figures. But you do have guys that certainly are going to command an increase in salary, and yeah, you have to factor that all in with your total payroll. We'll see what the numbers look like."
--For my Sox-fan friends, Ken Rosenthal from foxsports.com weighs in on the Mark Teahen trade: “Mark Teahen was a below average defender at third base last season according to two advanced metrics, and one rival GM says he does not hit well enough to justify the $5 million plus the low-revenue Royals would have had to pay him in salary arbitration. The White Sox can better afford Teahen, but a .749 career OPS at third? Hmmm.”
Teahen’s hitting line this year at KC was .271/.325/.408 for an OPS of .734. His OPS-plus was 94, which falls into the “meh” category. And that’s with a batting average on balls in play (BABIP) of .334, which was above average and suggests Teahen hit in good luck.
As for the fielding, take a gander at both fangraphs.com (a favorite site of mine) and baseball-reference.com (another great one), and you’ll see slightly below average numbers for Teahen at third. His UZR, or ultimate zone rating was minus-6.9, and his UZR 150 (for an average over 150 games) was minus-10.9. It just so happened that yesterday, someone asked GM Kenny Williams about his team’s defense and whether it would be better in 2010.
“I don’t have a measuring stick,” Kenny said. “All the measuring sticks that are out there, I’m not in favor of them. I don’t find much validity in them.” Kenny cited the athleticism of his team, which he said will be better next year. He also said Alexei Ramirez will continue to get better at short.
--Here is what Kenny said about third-base prospect Dayan Viciedo: “He’s very much in the plans. How can he not be? The kid’s going to light up the scoreboard when he gets here, and he’s worked his tail off, which I’m very proud of. He became a very good teammate, and from what I understand, a funny teammate. So there’s personality in there, too. Of course, we’re going to have to teach him English, so we can understand the jokes. But I’m sure, in the next couple of years, that’ll happen. He’s going to force his way here. The way that shakes out, we’ll figure it out at that time. I like it when guys force their way here.”
Whether Viciedo can make the jump from Class AA Birmingham to the White Sox will depend on “how we’re configured” on April 1, Kenny said.
--Got to meet Tim Dierkes from mlbtraderumors.com. Check that site out. Tim does a nice job, and if there’s a bad rumor, he’ll take it down. Big-league clubs have that site bookmarked.
--Someone asked on the last blog why the Cubs seem “down” on Ryan Theriot. I don’t think 154 games played constitutes “down.” I think many of the fans are more down on Theriot than anything else. Here is what Jim Hendry said when asked if a middle infielder were a priority this winter:
"Not necessarily. I'm very happy with Ryan. Theriot's a winning-type player. He didn't play quite as well late when we were out of it as he did the previous year, but he gives you 110 (percent) every day. You win a lot of baseball games with him. I thought Baker did a really good job after we got him. He gives you a lot of protection. He plays well at second. I think Mike Fontenot was a guy, he'd be the first to tell you, that he had a disappointing year. We certainly need him to bounce back. We've got (Andres) Blanco, who's a great defender. It's no secret that (Aaron) Miles had just a tremendous hiccup and a poor year after two really good years at St. Louis."
More later.


Mariners have a ton of money off the books(reportedly 46 million) with Beltre, Washburn, maybe Jack Wilson and other odds and ends. They need an OF and they need a DH (depending upon Griffey). They might even need a 3rd baseman, so maybe Fox could be included. Not sure how we would match up, but that could be a solid home for Bradley where he would be out of the spotlight and media.
Rumor has it they don't want any OF because the plan on having Ackley in LF by the end of the season.
I see rumors that the Cubs are interested in Marlon Byrd. He had a good year last year, but previous years were average at best. We cannot take a chance on a guy who had his best year at 32 years old, in a hitters park and in a contract year.
If Hendry makes this move, he will regret it. I would rather take a flyer on Rick Ankiel or Mike Cameron.
Bruce, your thoughts.
I'm not all that wild about Byrd. Ankiel is intriguing. Cameron seems appealing, and it shouldn't matter that he bats right-handed.
Why have we not heard any Soriano trade rumors? I know he has a monster contract and bad knees, but there are a few other horrible contracts that we can possibly match up with.
Vernon Wells and Barry Zito for example.
Hey, Bruce. A couple of Sox questions: 1) Is Jordan Danks the real deal or is Kenny just blowing smoke in case the Sox can't find a decent leadoff hitter? 2) Is Bobby Jenks ticketed out of town? Kenny's promising more trades, but I don't see any names he's got to offer for anything significant unless Jenks is on the block. Thanks. I've always appreciated your Cubs coverage, and it's good to see you writing about the South Side too.
Glad to talk about it. From what people around the Sox told me, Danks is the real deal. They said he was ready defensively last year and that his hitting has come around. Jenks is much more likely than not to stay with the Sox.
The Philadelphia papers are saying the Phillies feel the burden of having Brad Lidge under contract for two more years at about 11-12 million per year. The Phillies do not trust Lidge as a reliever after all of his blown saves this year.
I have not seen this rumor, but Bradley and Lidge salaries match. I guess the Phillies do not need another outfielder unless they trade Victorino for starting pitching. Bradley would look better than Stairs as a DH if the Phillies return to the series.
I am reaching, but it is not easy to think of Bradley trade possibilities without eating significant salary.
Wow, I'd pay to see that. I have not heard such talk. I just couldn't imagine Milton in that fan and media environment.
Hey Bruce,
Any legs to the Bradley for Millwood rumors? Millwood makes 10 and Bradley makes 9 in 2010, so that's a wash. I would imagine the Cubs would need to kick in some cash for 2011 and probably trade Samradjiza, Marshall or Gorzelanny as well.
Hoops
According to RotoTimes.com, Millwood is signed through 2009 with a club option for 2010. If the contracts are basically a wash, why would the Cubs have to kick in cash for 2011? And why would they need to add a player to the deal? Wouldn't the Rangers just pick up Millwood's option for the purposes of turning him into Milton Bradley?
is to pay for part of Bradley's salary because Texas is not going to pay him the $13M he's owed in 2011.
He signed a five-year, $60 million deal that runs from 2006-10.
Millwood has a $15 million signing bonus that's payable from 2011-15. According to Cot's, the deferred money was done to keep the average annual salary lower.
The Rangers would appear to be a good landing place for Bradley, and Millwood seemingly would be a serviceable arm. I'm told there haven't been any formal talks on this, but that Millwood is a guy the Cubs have liked. He was 13-10 with a WHIP of 1.34 and an ERA of 3.67. I'd say it's a situation that bears watching.
to hear Kenny Williams say that about the fielding metrics, but could just be saying it because he knows how his team rates in these metrics, which is terrible.
Please tell me the rumored 2 years + option for Grabow is WAY off?
Ask Hendry why not just offer arbitration since he's a Type A? No other team in baseball is going to give up a draft pick for John Freakin Grabow; yet Hendry is ready to offer him a 2-3 year deal at over $3M per year? ARGH!!!!!!
I don't think that offer is way off at all, for better or worse. That's probably where the market for pitchers like Grabow will be. I'd offer two, period, and be done with it, but my guess is Grabow will be back. Usually, when Jim says something like, "When both parties want the same conclusion, something usually gets done," (as he said yesterday), that's a pretty good indication a guy is coming back. Mike Remlinger, LaTroy Hawkins, Bobby Howry, Scott Eyre...John Grabow.
what so wrong about a 1 year deal?
not asking you bruce, just voicing frustrations....
I'm sure Grabow and his agents feel, and they're probably right, that they can get two or three somewhere. If the Cubs value him as much as it appears, they'll offer two or three or two with an option.
Locking up Marmol long term scares me a bit. Maybe they are able to buy out a year or two of free agency but with his pitching mechanics and the workload he's had I think they'd be better off just letting things play out.
If Fontenot makes 'Super 2' will/can they just let him go?
They can always non-tender an arb-eligible guy and re-sign him as a free agent. I don't think they'd get to an arb hearing with Fontenot anyway. They'd settle ahead of time.