Tuesday's late edition

Tuesday's late edition

Posted by Bruce on Tue, 11/10/2009 - 20:04

Question of the day, Cubs fans: Would you be comfortable with Marlon Byrd in center field and Kosuke Fukudome in right? We’re a long way from that now, but the Cubs will have their eyes on Byrd when he hits the open market later this month. Of course, it would help GM Jim Hendry if he can trade Milton Bradley sooner rather than later, and apparently he’s moving slowly in that direction.

Byrd, 32, had a hitting line of .283/.329/.479 for an OPS of .808 with the Texas Rangers this year, his free-agent season. His OPS-plus was 106. The Bill James Handbook projects Byrd at .279/.340/.438 for an OPS of .778 next season. New Cubs hitting coach Rudy Jaramillo, also late of Texas, is said to like Byrd, so we’ll have to wait and see.

-- Since someone asked on an earlier blog, I put the question to Jim Hendry as to whether the Cubs would offer a long-term deal to an arbitration-eligible player. The Cubs have not been big players in that area.

"I haven't met with anybody or talked in detail about that, but eventually, for the right guy, if you're confident their health is going to be good and they could be an integral part of your club, it certainly could make sense for a couple reasons,” Jim said. “One, you have a chance to make a deal that's long-term good for the club financially. And obviously, a player that's an arb guy in that category, whether it's his first or second year, is not financially set for life yet, so it gives them some security that if they want to be here, make a fair deal with the club, they're a lot more secure than they were before that. So it's possible. I don't see it happening on a regular basis, but for the right guy, if you really felt good about the whole package, it's certainly a good way to do business for both sides."

Of course, there’s a risk in doing that with pitchers, so we’ll have to see how that plays out for the likes of, say, newly minted closer Carlos Marmol.

-- Speaking of pitching, Jim reiterated this afternoon that he’s comfortable with the in-house options the Cubs have while Ted Lilly spends at least part of April rehabbing from shoulder surgery.

"I think we have a lot of options internally,” Jim said. “You've got Samardzija. You've got Marshall. You've got Gorzelanny. Those are three quality guys, and we feel good about the progress Samardzija made in Mexico, and Gorzelanny did a respectable job when we got him. Marshall's always been our classic bailout guy. Whatever role we need him to do, he's always started the season high fashion. We feel like we've got it covered. And we've got a real good corps coming in the Double-A rotation. A couple of those guys are fast-track guys."

"Teddy's surgery didn't change the way we look at Teddy. If Teddy pitches April 3, great. If it's April 23, that's OK, too."

In Mexico before coming home for the winter, Samardzija was 2-0 with a 2.25 ERA in 5 starts. His WHIP was 1.25. He walked eight and struck out 22 in 24 innings.

-- The Cubs have used their farm system to make trades in recent years. With several top pitching prospects at Class AA Tennessee and position players such as Starlin Castro and Josh Vitters moving up, I asked Hendry if he’d be inclined to move prospects in trades.

"A lot of guys, you don't want to trade,” he said. “We're in a situation now, as we all know, we'll be mixing and matching this winter more than just trading prospects for a high-end salary guy. That doesn't seem to make much sense right now, where we're at. We've always felt better about the system than given credit for the last few years. That just goes with the territory. When the big-league club had a real good year last year, 'The system was really good because Soto was Rookie of the Year and the starting shortstop (Theriot) was homegrown and eight pitchers were from the system.' And then when you win 83 and you don't make the postseason, then all of a sudden the system stinks. It's not something we worry about. Tim Wilken (scouting director) has done a good job the last three years. You're starting to see the fruits of his work."

Marlon Byrd

I say no. If you are going to take a chance on a FA CF give the money to Ankiel and let the new hitting coach give him a few lessons. Ankiel is younger and is probably going to be easier on the checkbook.

Posted by Wish on Thu, 11/12/2009 - 08:12
Granderson

Bruce, mlbtraderumors.com is reporting that Granderson is available for the right price. I'm sure he'd command a king's ransom, but do the Cubs have the pieces and the desire to go after a long term solution in CF like Granderson?

Posted by hankp101 on Wed, 11/11/2009 - 15:04
Only if...

...The Tigers are willing to take significant salary back. If they're strictly in a salary-dumping mode, they're not going to want Bradley. The Cubs cannot add significant dollars without getting rid of similar money.

Posted by Bruce on Wed, 11/11/2009 - 17:05
Really???

Granderson is only getting paid $5.5 million in 2010. Wouldn't be adding much at all.

He would be a perfect fit for this team. He had a down year with a low BABIP and still hit 30 homers and 60 extra base hits out of centerfield.
I would forgive Hendry for not offering Harden arbitration if he did something like this!

Could you imagine if Granderson was a free agent right now, would he get 3 years, $26 million? Of course he would, that's a steal, and that's what's left on his contract.

Sell Jim on this Bruce.

Posted by Boozer on Wed, 11/11/2009 - 18:03
Grand Idea

Granderson in CF would be fantastic, and Fuk in RF would really help the OF defense. They would just need platoon partners for them who can hit LHP because neither Granderson or Fuk have been able to do so. Bring back Johnson and sign Kearns cheap?

Posted by WSorBust on Wed, 11/11/2009 - 18:34
We'll see

Cubs like Curtis Granderson. However, they are not trading Starlin Castro, as has been suggested elsewhere. If the Cubs could get him for something less, then go ahead.

Posted by Bruce on Wed, 11/11/2009 - 18:05
Castro

yeah I read that from another columnist and thought what the what!?! Then in 2 years the same people would complain at the fact that the team is old and has no stars in the minor leagues. I have my reservations about holding onto prospects and then not having them pan out, but when a guy gets so much buzz and all the scouts call him a future All-Star then you hold on and take that risk...especially when he is the only real prospect in the system at this point. There a lot of other good looking prospects but none with the ceiling of Castro, not even Vitters.

I like Granderson a lot. He brings a lot to a team and community and is one of the "good guys"in baseball that teams needs and fans need more stories about. That said he is trending down and his speed will start to take a hit. Wrigley has less hitting space in the outfield so the triples will be down and some of the gap power and doubles he hits will be gobbled up by outfielders here than in the spacious Tiger's stadium. He will get a boost from facing the Reds and Pirates and Astro pitching but can you project the same numbers with the Cubs and the Tigers? Is he a good get for the team? I say yes, but do you unload your future for 3 years of him? No way.

Posted by Double M on Thu, 11/12/2009 - 09:17
No one said...

you have to move Castro.

Vitters though, see ya!

Posted by Boozer on Thu, 11/12/2009 - 09:23
Byrd, Matthews et al

I fully agree with the post of others Why overpay for Byrd, or the steroid deprived Gary Matthews JR whose stats have dropped each year since his big contract and no more 'roids. Cameron has a bit more power than Reed Johnson, but RJ has shown THIS team, THIS clubhouse he is a leader We lost clubhouse leaders last year, and yes, they probably had to go given that Wood wanted entirely too much money, and we do seem to have found at least two good pitchers for DeRosa, and may have his replacement of sorts in Baker. But with a tight budget what is wrong with a $4-5 million one year or two year $10-11 million for Johnson? Continuity over the course of seasons does seem to work to some degree

Posted by Lucky13 on Wed, 11/11/2009 - 11:45
What?

Did Hendry call Tim Wilken a fruit? That doesn't seem nice.

Posted by aAndy on Wed, 11/11/2009 - 09:40
Marlon Byrd is vintage Jim Hendry move

Outbid yourself for a 30-something ballplayer that you will deeply regret signing one month into the season. ENOUGH of this addiction to high priced suspects in free agency. Oh how I wish the Ricketts family would just cut to the chase and fire Jim Hendry now. Lord knows his farm system remains a mess. Gee, wouldn't it be nice to just once have a viable young outfielder option to turn to that is produced in-house? The only thing the Cub minor-league system is good for is pumping out aging journeyman former "non-prospects" ala Mike Fontenot, Micah Hoffpauir, Jake Fox.

Posted by BLou on Wed, 11/11/2009 - 08:53
No more Texas outfielders please.

Bradley, G Matthews Jr. and M.Byrd hit well for Texas, but after they left, they fell apart.
If your going to sign Byrd, your better off trying Reed Johnson (good in clubhouse) and
Fuld in a platoon, and save money and long term aggravation. The Cubs should have
drafted Josh Hamilton instead of givng him to Cincinnati 3 years ago, a Henry error.
Then get Orlando Cabera or Tejada for 2 years, until Castro is ready.

If Coco Crisp is healty, the Cubs should look in to him, probably cost less then Byrd.
Byrd is for the Birds anyway.
And how about trading with the Jays for Halladay, would they except Marshall, Vittners,
Cashner, Fox, Heilman & Hoffpauir, or some other combination.

After 2010, D.Lee and Lillys contracts are up, something to think about.

Posted by luckycharlies on Wed, 11/11/2009 - 06:58
There was also this other 30

There was also this other 30 year old free agent coming off of a career season in Texas that Hendry signed a few years ago that didn't exactly generate excitement in Cubdom. Not sure if you guys remember Mark DeRosa, but I think that signing turned out alright for Hendry and the Cubs.

I agree that it would be nice to not rely on signing question mark free agents, but in my opinion guys like Marlon Byrd and Mark DeRosa offer a better chance at winning now than Sam Fuld. If you go with a platoon of Fuld / Johnson that still leaves you with a need for another OF...do you go with Colvin? That could turn out to be a pretty weak hitting OF.

Posted by cowboy2024 on Wed, 11/11/2009 - 10:15
Do you have a newsletter I

Do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to where I can immediately be informed of your thoughts on all things Cub?

You have some great ideas. Like Coco Crisp. He probably is cheaper than Byrd, because he's not particularly good.

I also agree that "Henry" made a horrible mistake by not drafting Josh Hamilton three years ago and giving him to Cincinnati. I can't think of a better place for an alcoholic with a heroin addiction to play than 81 games at Wrigley Field. I'm sure that would have worked out terrifically for everyone involved.

And, I love your ideas about signing Miguel Tejada or Orlando Cabrera. Either move would make the team the favorite to win the division in 2004.

I also look forward to seeing Roy Halladay pitching for the Cubs next year. How could the Blue Jays turn that down tremendous offer? Who wouldn't want to trade their ace pitcher for six white guys--four of whom have almost no trade value at all? But hey, they get Vittners, which would be a coup for them, and for the Cubs, who apparently would get to keep Josh Vitters.

Posted by aAndy on Wed, 11/11/2009 - 09:49
Jim who? The architect of

Jim who? The architect of this years disaster and no world series trips? You mean him? I just dont care what he has to say anymore.

Posted by NK on Wed, 11/11/2009 - 00:08
Amen

Architect of a bad bloated payroll and a farm system that considers it a success to have its main end product be the Mike Fontenots and Micah Hoffpauirs of the world.

Posted by BLou on Wed, 11/11/2009 - 08:55
CF

I can live with either Byrd or Cameron if the deal is reasonable. I am really surprised the Cubs seem to be looking almost exclusively at RH OFers to replace the soon to be departed Bradley. Is that by choice or a product of the realistic options?

Posted by hankp101 on Tue, 11/10/2009 - 21:04
LH CFers

Have Coco Crisp or Rick Ankiel been mentioned as options at all for the Cubs? Clearly neither is an ideal option, but Grady Sizemore isn't manning CF for the Cubs next year, and neither seem likely to break the bank.

Posted by hankp101 on Tue, 11/10/2009 - 21:20
FYI - Good for a laugh

Jeter won ANOTHER Gold Glove. Really. Why do we allow these writers to vote on anything besides what food they want in the dinner spread at the ballparks? They screw up the HOF and they screw up the post season awards every freakin' year!

Posted by ceepea17 on Tue, 11/10/2009 - 21:04
Writers don't vote for Gold Gloves

Nice try, though. Major-league managers and coaches vote for Gold Gloves.

Posted by Bruce on Tue, 11/10/2009 - 22:44
He walked 22 and struck out eight in 24 innings.

Strike that...reverse it.

I'd be more than happy with Byrd. 2-3 yrs tops? Beyond that it's a problem and I'd just rather the Cubs go with Cameron on a 1 or 2 year deal.

Posted by JTK on Tue, 11/10/2009 - 20:53
Fixed

Thanks. Long day. Samardzija walked eight and struck out 22.

Posted by Bruce on Tue, 11/10/2009 - 22:46
Can we get Byrd circa 2008?

It seems to me that he became "Home Run Obsessed" last year when his triple-slash dropped from a lovely .298/.380/.462 to a .283/.329/.479 while his HRs increased from 10 to 20 (although he did have close to 150 more ABs). A quick glance fangraphs shows he was popping a lot of stuff up as his GB/FB ratio and his LD% both declined. If he can cutdown on some of those bad habits (as well as swinging more at pitches he can drive and taking pitcher's pitches in the zone again), then sure, I'd take him in a heartbeat.

Also, do you have the walk/strike outs flipped for Shark? Something tells me that he would not have pitched as well (and Hendry would be a little worried) if he walked 22 and struck out only 8 in 24 innings.

Posted by ceepea17 on Tue, 11/10/2009 - 20:49
Meh..

That's my take on Marlon Byrd. But at this point, I guess it's an upgrade over Bradley. Sad that he hit so well in 2008 with Texas and STUNK with the Cubs. I was really rooting for the guy to have success with the Cubs.

Posted by BearsCubs on Tue, 11/10/2009 - 23:37