Tough luck Ravens
The Bears should absolutely not voluntarily give the Ravens their fourth-round pick on Sunday because of the miscommunication that screwed up their attempt to trade up from No. 29 to Baltimore’s spot at No. 26 to get OT Gabe Carimi.
The Bears got Carimi anyway at 29. As a result of the Bears’ “glitch,” the Ravens failed to make their pick in time, and they were leapfrogged by the Chiefs, dropping to No. 27. But they still got the guy they wanted in CB Jimmy Smith from Colorado.
What is at issue now is the fourth-round pick that the Bears and Ravens had agreed upon as compensation for the swap, and it’s unlikely that the NFL will act to penalize the Bears. They shouldn’t. The “glitch” was actually a miscommunication that resulted in two Bears employees each thinking the other was going to make the call to the league notifying it of the trade.
There is no evidence that the foul-up that allowed the Bears to still get their guy while saving their fourth-round pick was on purpose. Technical snafus happen all the time. The world is an imperfect place. Screws fall out all the time.
Bottom line: No harm, no foul.
And those who act as if giving away a fourth-round pick is no big deal are uninformed. Since Angelo began running the Bears’ draft in 2002, the fourth round has brought DE Alex Brown, CB Nate Vasher, QB Kyle Orton, LB Jamar Williams, OG Josh Beekman, S Craig Steltz, DE Henry Melton, CB D.J. Moore and DE Corey Wootton.
Kudos to No More Lines for picking up on the obscure Breakfast Club reference. It's good to see someone is paying attention.
By the way, even though it's ancient history now, the Ravens pulled the same "miscommunication" deal on the Vikings several years ago when Mike Tice was the head coach in Minnesota. It caused the Vikings to get skipped twice before they made their first-round choice.
Raise your hand if you remember Ravens GM Ozzie Newsome stepping up, admitting he made a mistake or offering the Vikings additional draft picks. What goes around comes around.
Okay, so it's done ...
I like Carimi ... LOVE the fact the kid is big, brash, bold !!! I want a left tackle like Jimbo with the meanness of Olin. I want a guy there who gets wood pancaking a DE and/or linebacker. I love the fact the kid played at WI where they ran a pro-style offense with a solid, kick butt running game!!!!
Gotta love a kid who's got the speed, strength and toughness in Paea. Plus he's still "young" in football terms ... his body not worn out by 8 yrs of playing.
The QB ... question mark big, strong arm ... sounds like a kid you can work on.
and apparently Martz loved him and maybe he was the best athlete left on the board at that point but was there no wide receiver or lineman or other choice in a greater area of need who was at least close enough in value to consider?????
Thought bungling Angelo had a good draft through 3 picks but cannot fathom QB pick when there are so many other needs.
The league is mistaken for not stepping in on these snafus (not just the Bears, but others in the past) and instituting a penalty (should be 7th-round pick in this case).
The guilty team is going to pooh-pooh the damage. The other team is going to scream for compensation. Each team reacting self-servingly. We'd expect nothing different.
As for fourth-round pick being worth a lot, yes indeed. And we just traded up nine slots in the second and yielded our fourth for Paea. That's a whole lotta give-up.
But Bob will likely switch gears quickly and homerifically and conclude that Paea is the second coming.
Will Clubs be allowed to sign nondrafted collegiate FAs after the draft? Thanks.
I don't agree with you Bob. The guy in charge of the Bears made a deal with the guy in charge for the Ravens with 2 minutes left on the clock. The bears keeping their 4th round pick would be like a criminal getting off because the cop improperly read miranda rights. The Bears probably have the law on their side not to complete this trade - but everyone knows they made a deal and they should abide by it. You are correct of course that a 4th round pick a lot to give up.
If circumstances were reversed, would you really pen a blog titled "Tough Luck Bears" ?
Where I am from; Failing to make a phone call is considered rank incompetence, not a technical snafu.
Your not really in a position to say the Ravens were not harmed. They could well have
made a deal with another team, and the Bears could have lost out on Carini.
The Fact is the Ravens struck a deal in good faith, and handled their end of it.
The Bears Flubbed their end, keeping the Ravens from making another deal, and benefitted by getting the player they wanted and keeping the pick.
It may not be some high crime, but it does lack a bit of honor on the part of the Bears.
I don't think this is a sign of loose or non-existent ethics. I think this is emblematic of the gross incompetence that has been a main stay of Jerry Angelo's tenure as Bears GM. I don't think Angelo is a scumbag, I think he's just that dumb. Hopefully, ownership has realized this and at very least he won't get a new contract and the Bears will be rid of him when his contract expires. However, I also don't think the League has any ability to punish a GM for being incompetent. If they can prove malicious intent, then by all means, take the pick. Otherwise it has to be chaulked up to the ineptitude of Angelo.
Bob,
I am now a life long fan of yours. That Breakfast Club reference was perfect. I tip my hat to you, sir.